Just sampled both the beers that Jacob and I brewed. They tasted very similar. Appley. Not too bad though. Ellie tasted the same. From this I can conclude that the issue is not my fermentation. It's not my cool fermentation chamber. It's not a dirty fermenter. It's not the keg. Can't wait to do a repeat with him at his place on his gear.
As a side note. I'm not sure it's my gear either. My O2 experiment is on going. I just bottled up beer that was fermented with very little of my gear. I used malt extract and brewed it in the kitchen with kitchen equipment. It's probably not in the O2 stone since the shake batch was the same. The funnel was recently replaced. I just don't know what it could be. There is one constant in all this and that's the WLP001 yeast. Maybe that yeast is just not as clean as the world says. I don't know.
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